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Ceriatone => Overtone => Topic started by: telemania on January 13, 2011, 04:35:17 PM



Title: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: telemania on January 13, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
without giving any secrets away, or getting into trouble, I am curious how Nik got the origonal amps in front of him in the first place. there aren't many of these around. and, how long did he have to study them? thanks.


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: boldaslove6789 on January 13, 2011, 07:23:18 PM
Its not a huge secret that many builders build their 1st D-clone of Dumble Overdrive Special #124 (The 1st Ceriatone Overtone is a close approximation of 124) .Nik did not have to have any real amps in front of him. Dumble ODS's are slowly coming out of the closet and much information can be gleaned @ http://ampgarage.com/forum/

#124 Pics

http://www.roblivesey.com/dumble


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: bluesfendermanblues on January 14, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
Ampgarage.com

That where the latest Ceriatone FM50 and FM100 come from.



Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: erwin_ve on January 14, 2011, 09:53:39 AM
Ampgarage.com

That where the latest Ceriatone FM50 and FM100 come from.


+1

The S&M series are basically the first D'Lite dumble clones from Brown Note.

Regular OTS serie are some mods closer to original dumbles presented by some members of ampgarage.

FM series are indeed based on Robben Ford's #102 presented at ampgarage.

183 serie is based on #183(the former amp of forumite "TAG" at the Gear Page, there is a very funny vid) presented at ampgarage.

HRM is based on ampgarage info but Nik's first run has some altered values. Probabably to his taste. The last HRM run is closer to some ampgarage info.

And the latest HRM MK2 is very close to a Two Rock Emerald Pro I've seen.

Bluesmaster is based on ampgarage info.


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: boldaslove6789 on January 14, 2011, 10:04:21 PM
I'll have to second that half the amps Nik offers are because of the time and effort  guys like Tony Albany and others @ the Amp Garage have taken out to make layouts and include info for all to see on the web. I have to give credit where credit is due. This is just a statement of truth, not meant to hurt, disrespect, or call out anyone,just the simply the truth.


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: erwin_ve on January 14, 2011, 10:50:38 PM
That being said; I would never been in the dumble thing if Nik didn't offer those kits.
Other competitors were just too expensive.


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: mcinku on January 15, 2011, 06:37:59 PM
That being said; I would never been in the dumble thing if Nik didn't offer those kits.
Other competitors were just too expensive.


++1


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: boldaslove6789 on January 15, 2011, 09:59:31 PM
That being said; I would never been in the dumble thing if Nik didn't offer those kits.
Other competitors were just too expensive.

+++1 me too ;D


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: Homebelly on January 19, 2011, 02:48:36 AM
Ampgarage.com

That where the latest Ceriatone FM50 and FM100 come from.


+1

The S&M series are basically the first D'Lite dumble clones from Brown Note.

Regular OTS serie are some mods closer to original dumbles presented by some members of ampgarage.

FM series are indeed based on Robben Ford's #102 presented at ampgarage.

183 serie is based on #183(the former amp of forumite "TAG" at the Gear Page, there is a very funny vid) presented at ampgarage.

HRM is based on ampgarage info but Nik's first run has some altered values. Probabably to his taste. The last HRM run is closer to some ampgarage info.

And the latest HRM MK2 is very close to a Two Rock Emerald Pro I've seen.

Bluesmaster is based on ampgarage info.


TAG is also a contributer at ampgarage where is is using the nickname Mr. Dumble.
He is a very good player,, not as good as he thinks, but still, very good compared to some.
He is also quite entertaining and does have a sense of humor.
The original #183 was loned to a builder by Tag and cloned ..(can't remember the name, i think it might be Quin..).. and is now availble in very liminted numbers as the TKT183. The TKT is a reference to "Tag Knows Tone"
The Tag Knows Tone is a put down invented by the regulars on TGP.
There is a very real danger that TAG/Mr.Dumble is going to become part of the Dumble heratige.
The thread over on TGP is an epic LOL Fest and full of quotes almost as comical and abstract as some of the quotes from AHD him self..


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: rogb on January 19, 2011, 10:27:14 PM
That being said; I would never been in the dumble thing if Nik didn't offer those kits.
Other competitors were just too expensive.

+me

D tone would have been just a dream for me without Nick, but also without TAG forum guys too.


Even though the kit is pretty tough to build, as a noob, it gave me the confidence to scratch build the D-lator.

I would definitely tackle a scratch build but TBH, I like dealing with Nik, even though I would get my butt
kicked at TAG, as it is widely felt that Nik never really acknowledeged the info available on there or contributed
in the way Talbany, Glaswerks and Henry did.
But I guess he's not the only one who ever did that ;)

Anyway, politics aside, I often look at my amp and can't quite believe I have the D sound right here in my living room ;D


Title: Re: how did you find the OD to study?
Post by: ampkits on April 06, 2011, 04:34:31 PM

No, I went dumpster diving at HAD's place... :)

#124 was indeed what started it. Thanks Gil, and the guys involved at the time.

S&M was not Brown note's. it was my preference, after doing #124 exactly. It was very hard if you're used to fenders and marshalls. Thats why the S&M is a bit brighter, and with a more biting OD.

#183, FM50, FM100 - a bird emailed the info. Check my log at the ampgarage place. No login since 2008? 2009?

My understanding of #183 is it was degooped TAG's amp. I do not follow any other people's layouts, it was eyeballing the pics.

I did see a layout floating around at the time, with some wrong values (if the original pics were enhanced properly). But then again, even my 183 is slightly tweaked as is.

FM came in schematic format. FM Eagle mod is a tweak, but sold currently by default, unless original is requested.

HRM MK2 - havent seen emerald pro yet, not that familiar with TR amps.  Not sure exactly. Some Dumble owners DO email me pics of their amps insides, so could have been one of those. 

Or could have been schematic floating around, that someone found 3 years earlier than me, with a tear, and the not so sounding good version! LOL! Oh wait, thats for the Jose mod, oops!

But yeah sure, credit is where credit is due, we all can be ethical here: :)

So thanks, to brother cloners of Alexander Dumble circuits, over at ampgarage.com.

If I find something new, I'd sure to post it on my layouts on the website! :)

Feels like I am missing someone to thank here... hmmm...

Oh, thanks, HAD! You're a genius!