Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 25, 2024, 03:05:18 PM
Home Help Search Login Register
News: Ceriatone Forums are up and running!!!
 
Guests please register
Note: If you want to help you can donate to keep the forums alive.



Do you want to advertise on this forum ? Send me a private message.



Amplified Parts
+  Ceriatone Forum
|-+  Ceriatone
| |-+  Overtone
| | |-+  Having trouble w/ Clean Channel of my OTS 50!
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Having trouble w/ Clean Channel of my OTS 50!  (Read 12330 times)
jads57
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 16


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2008, 07:56:16 PM »

Thanks for the info about the different preamp tubes. I have JJ 12 AX7`s in all 3 slots. I noticed that the other Overtone I played through had been tubed w/ Groove Tube 6L6GC power tubes and GT preamp tubes( not sure which ones though). That amp had a tremendous amount of gain in the overdrive mode. I thought maybe someone just adjusted the internal trim pot at full. One other ? I have is, how should the phase inverter trim be set? Mine is  set at exactly half (12 o`clock). is that correct? What exactly does the trim pot effect anyway? Thanks again in advance.
Logged
jads57
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 16


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2008, 07:03:37 PM »

I ended up taking my OT Special 50 to a local tech to have the J Zucker Tweaked Mods installed and biased properly. Should have it back in a couple of weeks!
Logged
ampkits
Administrator
Sr. Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 325


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2008, 06:37:16 PM »

Hi

23mV is kinda low?

Thanks!

Nik
Logged
bobgoblin
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 74


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2008, 10:43:54 PM »

What's a good range to bias then?
Logged
JD0x0
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 298


Happy Hour Hero


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2008, 12:11:42 AM »

What's a good range to bias then?

35mA is standard for most blackface fenders so i would probably go with 37mA
30-42mA is a round figure for most 6L6's
Logged

It's true i've lost my marbles and i can't remember where i put them.
JUN42
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 24



View Profile
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2008, 12:32:27 AM »

Nik recommended me 35 - 40mV
Logged
jads57
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 16


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2008, 02:18:01 AM »

Got the amp back rebiased properly,and the J Zucker mods. Definetly a lot better w/ the changes.  I probably am going to have it upgraded to a 100 watts when I get some more $
Logged
JD0x0
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 298


Happy Hour Hero


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2008, 02:49:31 AM »

Got the amp back rebiased properly,and the J Zucker mods. Definetly a lot better w/ the changes.  I probably am going to have it upgraded to a 100 watts when I get some more $

i would just keep it at 50 watts. 100 watts wont be much louder it would be easier to keep it normal.
im adding a tube rectifier to mine eventually and making it switchable from tube to solidstate.   
Logged

It's true i've lost my marbles and i can't remember where i put them.
hywelg
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 896


View Profile
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2008, 09:03:34 AM »


im adding a tube rectifier to mine eventually and making it switchable from tube to solidstate.   

Thats a layout I'd like to see!
Logged
jads57
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 16


View Profile
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2008, 05:29:04 PM »

the reason I eventually want to upgrade to 100 watts is for the clean headroom.  Right now if I need more clean headroom, I end up running a slave amp( Crate Powerblock) into another cab. It actually gets a great sound, but would like to not have do deal w/ all the extra cables.
Logged
dannysgrandpa
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 64


Life is good here! God is good...all the time!


View Profile WWW
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2008, 05:17:04 AM »

I have an unmodified OTS 50 (July '08) and I have all the clean headroom I can stand.  I run my preamp vol between 4 & 5 and my master anywhere from 2-6 depending on the venue. I have no problem keeping this baby nice and clean. The tone I get is very much like Larry Carlton's clean except for the "deep" switches on his Dumbles are actually "deep" not mid boost. Had this amp been modified before you got it? Check the cap and resistor values on V1 against the layout from ceriatone.com. Other than that... good luck.   Bill
Logged

Make a joyful noise...that is smooth, tight and punchy! I believe that God likes tube tone.
Certified IPC Master Trainer: 610G, 620C, J-STD-001G/Space, 7711C/7721C. Hands on soldering trainer, inspection trainer and Electrostatic Discharge instructor.
jads57
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 16


View Profile
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2008, 05:21:17 AM »

 Thanks Bill for the info. I always seem to run my clean fairly loudly. And the only 50 watt amp that seems to have enough clean for me is my Heritage Colonial. So I`ll probably end up having it upgraded to 100 watts as soon as I can afford it.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.12 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!

CeriaTone Forum is not afiliated with Ceriatone Amplifications. The CeriaTone and name, logo and related trademarks and service marks, owned by CeriaTone. , are registered and/or used in the U.S. and many foreign countries. All other trademarks, service marks, and trade names referenced in this site are the property of their respective owners.