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Ceriatone => Overtone => Topic started by: platinum321 on October 29, 2009, 05:29:41 AM



Title: Chords
Post by: platinum321 on October 29, 2009, 05:29:41 AM
Hi folks complete newb to the forum.
I would very much like to purchase an overtone.
However after reading about mods I pick up that this is not a
chord friendly amp.

Is this accurate or am I missunderstanding.

The answer to that question may be the deciding factor
as to purchase or not purchase.

I love the tone but i need me chords with some hair attached.

Thanks all in advance.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 06:36:32 AM
For more string definition and therefore more cord friendly amp, you need to go with Bluesmaster HRM.

Trust me on that one.
 ;)


PS: Welcome to the forum.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: Steven_nl on October 29, 2009, 08:07:35 AM
but  the OD channel sounds different right?


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 08:20:20 AM
but  the OD channel sounds different right?

Yes it does... but still sound dumbly to me.
 ;D

Have you seen my BM HRM vs nonHRM post?


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: bluesfendermanblues on October 29, 2009, 08:40:10 AM
but  the OD channel sounds different right?

Yes it does... but still sound dumbly to me.
 ;D

Have you seen my BM HRM vs nonHRM post?

mcinku, du you have a link to that post??


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 08:49:07 AM
mcinku, du you have a link to that post??

Here it is...
http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1160.msg8569#msg8569 (http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1160.msg8569#msg8569)
...just for the record, the difference between those two amps was not captured quite right in that recording. You need to stand in front of the amps... with master volume on 5... only than you can hear the real character of these amps. IMO

 


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 08:51:57 AM
Perhaps my youtube clip will give you some more feeling about this amp as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhtwRZWTmQQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhtwRZWTmQQ)

Recording is bad but still...  ;)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: bluesfendermanblues on October 29, 2009, 09:21:18 AM
mcinku, du you have a link to that post??

Here it is...
http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1160.msg8569#msg8569 (http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1160.msg8569#msg8569)
...just for the record, the difference between those two amps was not captured quite right in that recording. You need to stand in front of the amps... with master volume on 5... only than you can hear the real character of these amps. IMO
Thanks mcinku  - I've listened to your sound clips and must admit that I prefer the sound of the OTS over the BM. The BM sounds very dark in comparison.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 09:34:40 AM
The BM sounds very dark in comparison.

Yes it does... since than I replaced the speaker... from G12-65 to Gold and it's much better. Well on that youtube, I'm using both actually 1265 and Gold.
I also prefer to use SC guitar with my BM. This amp can make a SC guitar sound huge.  :o
I also plan on modding the amp slightly... I will try to increase the value of the slope resistor a bit. The plan is to make this amp friendlier to HB guitar as well.
All this does not change the fact that this amp has way better string definition and also... this amp has become my no1 amp, but that's just my preference of course.
Like I said, you need to hear this amp in person, side by side.

 ;)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: bluesfendermanblues on October 29, 2009, 11:32:13 AM
The BM sounds very dark in comparison.

Yes it does... since than I replaced the speaker... from G12-65 to Gold and it's much better. Well on that youtube, I'm using both actually 1265 and Gold.
I also prefer to use SC guitar with my BM. This amp can make a SC guitar sound huge.  :o
I also plan on modding the amp slightly... I will try to increase the value of the slope resistor a bit. The plan is to make this amp friendlier to HB guitar as well.
All this does not change the fact that this amp has way better string definition and also... this amp has become my no1 amp, but that's just my preference of course.
Like I said, you need to hear this amp in person, side by side.

 ;)

Well, next time I'm in your neighbourhood, I'll pop by ;-)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 12:03:00 PM
Well, next time I'm in your neighbourhood, I'll pop by ;-)

Anytime...
 ;)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: Steven_nl on October 29, 2009, 12:39:33 PM
France?
Would be right around the corner for me ;-)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 01:09:01 PM
Well France is a little to far for me...but if you're planing on spending your holiday at the Adriatic Sea... you will cross my country.
 8)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: Steven_nl on October 29, 2009, 01:55:49 PM
Ah I thought you were from France, Don't know why.
I won't gamble on your country of origin. Might make a painfull mistake.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on October 29, 2009, 01:59:59 PM
Hey, just check my profile and you will see where I live.
 ;)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: Steven_nl on October 29, 2009, 02:32:51 PM
Cool. Never been there, but I bet it's a beautifull country
bit far to compare amps maybe ;-)


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: JD0x0 on October 30, 2009, 10:37:52 PM
D style amps  have plenty of chord definition. I think people go by the myth that midrangy amps arent good for chords. I find that if i use more mids the chords sound even better and have more clarity as long as the bass isnt too over the top.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: tonym on November 01, 2009, 06:53:38 PM
I'm sure it depends much on the guitar as much as the amp.

I have recently completed a Overtone HRM and (with a strat) can get some great clean and not so clean stuff out of it. But I'm also sure that the other guys on here are right also - think about it - crap speakers - crap sound - that's a very old fact which many plug and play guitarists forget about..  they're just speakers... right?

I have found the Overtone HRM to be a very flexible amp, but it does not like my pedals too much. So I don't use them.

Then things get good!


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: hywelg on November 01, 2009, 10:27:36 PM

I have found the Overtone HRM to be a very flexible amp, but it does not like my pedals too much. So I don't use them.


the clean channel of mine loves my pedals, an Xotic BB and Rc and a Menatone Red Snapper. Have to be careful with the OD channel though, usually only the the RC OR the Red Snapper.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: platinum321 on November 02, 2009, 01:58:33 PM
Thanks for the replies thus far.
Wonder how it would take to Wamplers pedal's.
Well I made my mind up and I will be ordering one.

Thanks all.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: Steven_nl on November 02, 2009, 02:16:08 PM
Hi Hywelg. How do you use the RC? is it any good with the OTS?

I have a Wampler Extacy use it for more extreme distortion. I have been fiddling with my setup a bit so can't give you an up to date review on it. Good quality stuff though and the Extacy is pretty versitile.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: hywelg on November 02, 2009, 04:50:14 PM
Xotic RC is just for a clean volume boost. Different to PAB which changes your tone and give a bit more drive, the RC will drive V1 harder depending where you have the clean volume set.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: platinum321 on November 17, 2009, 04:39:21 AM
Well I went ahead and ordered a OTS now I have to not think about it till it gets here.  Hmm to make a head cabinet or a combo cabinet.  Hmmmmmmmm. . ..


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: hywelg on November 17, 2009, 09:52:55 AM
I put up a pdf drawing for a head cab a while ago, just search through my posts. You can easily adapt it for a 1x12 combo by lengthening the sides.


Title: Re: Chords
Post by: mcinku on November 17, 2009, 10:42:40 AM
If you want 1x12" combo....


...here you go
http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=450.msg3640#msg3640 (http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=450.msg3640#msg3640)

 ;)