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« on: January 30, 2008, 02:18:01 PM »
Hi everyone! I'm new!

I don't own a non-Overtone ... but I think I might like to ... I'm just mulling over some options in my head.

Has anyone tried the Overtone with the Celestion Gold Alnico speaker? It gets good reviews in the music press and I was wondering how well it might work in a 1x12 cab.

It's rated at 50w. Is that enough headroom for the Overtone? I'm more interested in good tone at moderate volume rather than being loud enough to play Wembley without a PA !!!

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2008, 05:11:23 PM »
The Celestion Gold is similar to the Vintage 30 in many respects- if you like a sparkly top end & a speaker thats quick to distort then it's great sound- a classic in fact, & not as expensive as the Gold!  However I highly recommend the Celestion G-65 if you can get it- it has a slightly higher power rating, a much smoother top end & mids- in fact rumour has it this is the speaker Robben Ford uses with his Dumble.  After reading many posts about the OT overdrive being a bit 'raspy' I would recommend trying different speakers if poss.... I really like the Celestion G-65- it has a large dust cap which sort of disperses the treble frequencies more evenly & smoothly...  maybe worth trying a tone tubby with a hemp cone- I've heard they have many of the sweet overdrive properties of the gold alnico but with a smoother top end... hope this helps... Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 05:25:54 PM »
thanks Mitch - useful info - I guess it is a matter of trying stuff out!!! I'll probably try the G65 first - sounds like a good speaker - and cheaper than the Gold.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 11:35:36 AM »
1265 is dark. The emi rw&b speaker sounds much better IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 08:27:03 PM »
Quote from: jzucker on March 23, 2008, 11:35:36 AM
1265 is dark. The emi rw&b speaker sounds much better IMO.

Are you sure about this?
I always thought RW&B is darker sounding speaker compared to 1265.

 Huh?
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 09:09:32 PM »
Yeah ,,, Huh?
Emi RWB is definitely darker than 1265  IMO
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 01:10:31 AM »
+1  1265 isn't as dark.  BUT, I do like the RW&B's.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2008, 02:23:54 AM »
I am going to second Jzucker & SPM. The G12-65 is darker than the Vintage 30. I have a 2x12 amp with Rola G12-65s and a cab with a V30 and G12H30. I felt the V30/G12H combination covered the tonal range of the Overtone Special much better. Humbuckers sound pretty much the same with either set of speakers and settings for the Robben Ford tone on the Overtone. You can really exploit the versatility of a Stratocaster with the V30/G12H combination driven by the Overtone Special.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2008, 04:17:49 AM »
Quote from: spm on March 23, 2008, 09:09:32 PM
Yeah ,,, Huh?
Emi RWB is definitely darker than 1265  IMO

Sorry, I have to disagree. The 1265 is like a blanket over the speaker. No highs or lows and sounds awful with a strat.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2008, 04:19:32 AM »
Quote from: ChrisL on March 24, 2008, 01:10:31 AM
+1  1265 isn't as dark.  BUT, I do like the RW&B's.

You can +1000. I have made recordings with both speakers with the same amp settings and mic positions as well as played them for friends. The 1265 is definitely muffled but if you *ONLY* want the robben-tone, it's the better of the 2 speakers. I'd rather have an EV12L though.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2008, 03:03:00 PM »
Quote from: Mitch on March 01, 2008, 05:11:23 PM
The Celestion Gold is similar to the Vintage 30 in many respects- if you like a sparkly top end & a speaker thats quick to distort then it's great sound- a classic in fact, & not as expensive as the Gold! 

The Gold I have doesn't remind me a bunch of the Vintage 30s I've played through.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2008, 04:37:09 PM »
http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/features/partners/Michael_Lewis.mov
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2008, 08:05:11 PM »
Quote from: Steven_nl on April 20, 2008, 04:37:09 PM
http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/features/partners/Michael_Lewis.mov

This is a Celestion G12-65 Heritage. Sounds dark :-(
Hope It will respond well to some more treble
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2008, 06:47:57 AM »
Quote from: jzucker on April 20, 2008, 04:19:32 AM
Quote from: ChrisL on March 24, 2008, 01:10:31 AM
+1  1265 isn't as dark.  BUT, I do like the RW&B's.

You can +1000. I have made recordings with both speakers with the same amp settings and mic positions as well as played them for friends. The 1265 is definitely muffled but if you *ONLY* want the robben-tone, it's the better of the 2 speakers. I'd rather have an EV12L though.
What kind of g12-65? Heritage or old 80-ies? Have them both in a  2*12 cab, you're right about the highs, but lows stand rocksolid.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2008, 03:08:10 PM »
Quote from: ChrisL on March 24, 2008, 01:10:31 AM
+1  1265 isn't as dark.  BUT, I do like the RW&B's.

+1000   I don't think the 1265 is too dark either. It's very widely used with great results and not just in Dumble type amps. I also think it sounds stellar with a strat. They definitely attenuate some high end but that contributes to its smooth warm buttery quality. IMO many speakers can sound shrill with Fendery / Dumbly amps esp at performance volumes.

It all depends on your tastes, your gear, your application (bedroom, recording, live) and what you are going for I guess. So all opinions aside, the speaker and cab obviously have a huge effect on the end result, so when you aren't able to try the speakers for yourself, listen carefully / critically to samples and compare with others - then draw your own conclusions.
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