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erwin_ve
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2010, 08:54:45 PM »
Quote from: yosemitespam on January 21, 2010, 07:08:53 PM
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HOWEVER, if an OTS had such a recording output, to be feed into a stereo effects processor, would there be a need for a Dumbleator at all?Huh?
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Maybe, I'm not familiar with the inside of the Mark IV; I'm very narrow minded, only dumble so far and a Fender. Grin
I know technically how it works; designing takes a long time: it's testing/adjusting over a long period.

Erwin, if you've ever seen Larry Carlton live, he places a microphone in front of his (100% dry) Dumble. The mic's output goes to stereo processor, then into the board. In essence, he did away with a need for an effects loop.

My idea of a RECORD output would be similar, but silent, and no microphone. Just a dry signal off the speaker terminals would be sent to a processor. That's how the Boogie Mark IV works, and it works very well.
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erwin_ve
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2010, 08:58:08 PM »
Quote from: yosemitespam on January 21, 2010, 07:10:42 PM
That's a long head alright. I take it the right most socket is for a 12AX7 to buffer the effects?
BTW, which "Dumble" schematic are you using for this?
No the most right is the phase inverter, left of the phase inverter is the socket for the buffer.
Basically it's 101HRM with added d-lator and some tweaks.
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2010, 10:05:06 PM »
Quote from: erwin_ve on January 21, 2010, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: yosemitespam on January 21, 2010, 07:10:42 PM
That's a long head alright. I take it the right most socket is for a 12AX7 to buffer the effects?
BTW, which "Dumble" schematic are you using for this?
No the most right is the phase inverter, left of the phase inverter is the socket for the buffer.
Basically it's 101HRM with added d-lator and some tweaks.

Any updates  on the builtin d-lator?

I noticed Bludotone has a built in tube effects loop. Larry Carlton now tours with Bludotone, leaving his Dumbles at home, btw.
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erwin_ve
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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2010, 08:06:43 AM »
Quote from: yosemitespam on January 31, 2010, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: erwin_ve on January 21, 2010, 08:58:08 PM
Quote from: yosemitespam on January 21, 2010, 07:10:42 PM
That's a long head alright. I take it the right most socket is for a 12AX7 to buffer the effects?
BTW, which "Dumble" schematic are you using for this?
No the most right is the phase inverter, left of the phase inverter is the socket for the buffer.
Basically it's 101HRM with added d-lator and some tweaks.
Almost done only heater wires are left.
Any updates  on the builtin d-lator?

I noticed Bludotone has a built in tube effects loop. Larry Carlton now tours with Bludotone, leaving his Dumbles at home, btw.
almost done, only heater wires!

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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 06:01:14 PM »

Quote from: erwin_ve on February 01, 2010, 08:06:43 AM
almost done, only heater wires!

Er, ah, Erwin, you did leave room for transformers and choke? I don't see a cutout for the PT, which usually protrudes inside the cabinet. Perhaps they all get mounted on the surface?

Best of luck with it. It should be interesting to compare to your Ceriatone and various D amps.
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erwin_ve
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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 06:43:08 PM »
Quote from: yosemitespam on February 01, 2010, 06:01:14 PM

Quote from: erwin_ve on February 01, 2010, 08:06:43 AM
almost done, only heater wires!

Er, ah, Erwin, you did leave room for transformers and choke? I don't see a cutout for the PT, which usually protrudes inside the cabinet. Perhaps they all get mounted on the surface?

Best of luck with it. It should be interesting to compare to your Ceriatone and various D amps.

Transformers are all on the bottom surface, the way it was mounted by Peavey. It's just a conversion so I left the trannys where they are.
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2010, 08:45:42 PM »
Quote from: erwin_ve on February 01, 2010, 06:43:08 PM
Quote from: yosemitespam on February 01, 2010, 06:01:14 PM

Quote from: erwin_ve on February 01, 2010, 08:06:43 AM
almost done, only heater wires!

Er, ah, Erwin, you did leave room for transformers and choke? I don't see a cutout for the PT, which usually protrudes inside the cabinet. Perhaps they all get mounted on the surface?

Best of luck with it. It should be interesting to compare to your Ceriatone and various D amps.

Transformers are all on the bottom surface, the way it was mounted by Peavey. It's just a conversion so I left the trannys where they are.

Got ya. I didn't realize you were using the original  magnetics. I assume the PT had all the right taps you needed, in advance.

Interesting, you could have bought some boards from Nik and done the same.  Which starts me to thinking about some old  Fenders laying around..........
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