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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2009, 02:08:30 PM »

Great to see things work out for you, alwalt.
My set up will be rather different, though. My plan is to have an A/B/Y switch in front of the amp to use the two channels both separately and combined. As you suggested I'll use a Boss Line Selector and two Y cables to use the FX loop, as per channel engaged, i.e. both separately and combined.

Do you think it will work if I connect the "In" and "Out" of the pedal chain to the Line Selector Output and Input, and then each Y cable from the FX loop channel to Line Selector "Send - A - Return" and "Send - B - Return"?

I can't try this out myself because I haven't bought a Line Selector yet.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2009, 03:15:09 PM »

Great to see things work out for you, alwalt.
My set up will be rather different, though. My plan is to have an A/B/Y switch in front of the amp to use the two channels both separately and combined. As you suggested I'll use a Boss Line Selector and two Y cables to use the FX loop, as per channel engaged, i.e. both separately and combined.

Do you think it will work if I connect the "In" and "Out" of the pedal chain to the Line Selector Output and Input, and then each Y cable from the FX loop channel to Line Selector "Send - A - Return" and "Send - B - Return"?

I can't try this out myself because I haven't bought a Line Selector yet.


Mind the LS2 has an A+B mix mode, AND  an A -> B mode, but it doesn't do the A/B/Y thing wihout laying down and changing the mode (one knob). Having that said, I'll try to explain how it works.

To mix the 2 sends from the amp to one chain of effects with the LS2, you must :

Set the LS2 to the A+B mix mode
Use each of the sends of the amp into A Input and B input
Plug the cable that goes from the LS2 to the effects into the OUT of the LS2. This is where the mixed signal comes out.

Once that signal passes the effects it must return to the amp, already mixed and wet. To do that, you can plug any of the returns on any of the two Y cables into the out of the effect.

This should work fine, but when you plug one of the returns of the Y cable to the amp, you will leave the other Y cable's return unplgged! That's why I suggested using one Y cable one one loop, and one mono cable on the other loop.

Please follow the signal on the layout I posted, this is pretty much it, the olny thing different is that I'm not using a Y cable, but a stereo cable that splts in 2 on a box, wich would be exactly the same.

The way you suggested won't work to share the effect chain on the loop...





A -> B
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009, 04:06:24 PM »

This should work fine, but when you plug one of the returns of the Y cable to the amp, you will leave the other Y cable's return unplgged! That's why I suggested using one Y cable one one loop, and one mono cable on the other loop.

Ok, I think I'm slowly getting there. I will try it that way once I get the amp (it's the 36W EF86, though) and the Line Selector. Do you mean by "mono cable" just any regular guitar cable?
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009, 06:54:38 PM »

This should work fine, but when you plug one of the returns of the Y cable to the amp, you will leave the other Y cable's return unplgged! That's why I suggested using one Y cable one one loop, and one mono cable on the other loop.

Ok, I think I'm slowly getting there. I will try it that way once I get the amp (it's the 36W EF86, though) and the Line Selector. Do you mean by "mono cable" just any regular guitar cable?

yep, the regular guitar cable... it will do the tip part of the loop... only the send. I asked Nik and he told me there should not be any problem by only using the send from the loop.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2012, 04:41:50 AM »

Hi guys,
I have been following this topic ever since I got my Dizzy. I have complicated life by adding a C'lator which sounds just great. However I am struggling to get a good result following the diagram posted here. When I run the C'lator into the clean channel, with my time based effects through it, it's whisper quiet and sounds awesome. However when I try to share the time based effects across the 2 FX loops, using the the Boss line selector as per your sketch, I get a lot of hum, even with the levels turned down to almost zero. I get the desired result, i.e. my time based effects are working on both channels of the amp, but its too noisy to be a real solution. Any other ideas how I can share my time based effects/C'lator across both FX loops? BTW I am using an A/B box at the front of the amp to choose between Channel 1 and 2. Cheers from Jakarta.
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