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American Style => BF Champ, Vibro Champ => Topic started by: sharp__edge on September 28, 2010, 03:54:50 PM



Title: Hi! I've got a number of questions on Ceriatone's Champs..
Post by: sharp__edge on September 28, 2010, 03:54:50 PM
Hello!

It appears the main ceriatone.com website doesn't provide very detailed information on the Champ clones built by Nik and his team of great guys!

Right now, the only "Champ" shown on the website is the "Ultra Champ". I presume that's a Champ (BF, SF or what) with a "tweed voicing" switch.

However, there is a lot of talk on this forum regarding BF Champs and Vibro Champs that i don't seem to see on the main site at all.


So these are my questions:

1) Apart from that listed "Champ Ultra" what other Champ Clones are offered by Nik and his team?

2) Are these other clones priced similarly to the "Champ Ultra" or should i expect to be charged a bit more for them?

3) If the "Champ Ultra" itself is not switched to "Tweed Voicing", what is it supposed to be cloning?


thanks for taking the time to read my questions guys!  :)


Title: Re: Hi! I've got a number of questions on Ceriatone's Champs..
Post by: cmoore on September 28, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
Generally speaking, there were only two champs, the "Tweed" and the BF/SF Champ/Vibro Champs.
I am not real familiar with Nik's Ultra. Looks like it removes the tone stack from the equation, which would make it sound more like a Tweed (5f1) Champ. There will be some component value differences, but the tone stack (or lack of) would be the biggest difference between the Tweed and BF Champs.
If you email Nik he can give you better details than I can....
Good Luck


Title: Re: Hi! I've got a number of questions on Ceriatone's Champs..
Post by: sharp__edge on September 29, 2010, 12:18:08 AM
yes i was hoping to be able to get my questions answered on this forum as opposed to emailing him.


he replies emails very very promptly and offers excellent customer service as i experienced when i bought a 5E3 from him a few months ago.

however, i figured he's a busy man! best to ask here before emailing him.


Title: Re: Hi! I've got a number of questions on Ceriatone's Champs..
Post by: cmoore on September 29, 2010, 02:11:15 AM
Well, that really is about it.
He does not offer any other Champ clones because there were only TWO.
If the ULTRA is not in Tweed mode, it is in BF/SF mode. That is all there was, if you disregard the Trem it is an extremely simple circuit.
Are you aware of any other Champs.....?


Title: Re: Hi! I've got a number of questions on Ceriatone's Champs..
Post by: sharp__edge on September 29, 2010, 04:34:55 AM
well, no i'm not aware of other champ clones he offers. thanks for your replies!


i guess i will email him after all, just to get a clearer picture.

i was also confused because SF and BF champs do have slightly different tonal characteristics. It made me wonder exactly which champ the Ultra was cloning.


Title: Re: Hi! I've got a number of questions on Ceriatone's Champs..
Post by: Morne44gell on February 26, 2011, 12:50:49 PM
I think you simply refer "Tweed", this is best to avoid all problems.


Title: Re: Hi! I've got a number of questions on Ceriatone's Champs..
Post by: ampkits on April 03, 2011, 08:20:29 PM
Hi

We did offer tweed, blackface champ, and also vibrochamp before.

It was taking much space on the scroll down menu on my website, so i replaced em all with a single model that, as hh etc pointed out here, does all 3 rather well.

Thats pretty much it.

Not sure abt going back to individual amps - when we had all 3, people were requesting to put all 3 into 1. So there you go! :)

Thanks!

Nik